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Malthros Zenobia Caldari Independent Navy Reserve	Posted - 2006.11.18 17:15:00 - [1] Originally by: Xori Ruscuv Edited by: Xori Ruscuv on 16/11/2006 21:06:56 Maybe they are trying to shut up the "OMG FEROX IS USELESS!!!111LOL" people. If they make the Ferox have 7 turret slots like other BCs, that'd shut those people up too. And the caldari Railboat BC would actually gasp be useful! Originally by: kieron The Carrier was never intended to be a solo OMGWTF mission-farming PWNmobile.
Malthros Zenobia Caldari Independent Navy Reserve	Posted - 2006.11.18 17:23:00 - [2] Originally by: Tuxford We can always remove some launcher slots from the ferox if that boosts the drake for you. Drake is fine. Kinetic damage is fine. Spouting ** like "kinetic damage sucks" is just bull and you know it. Even so I bet Amarrians would love to be able to take a 25% damage drop and do explosive damage. The ship is fine and if you can't make it work its not the ship that sucks. Tux, you once said Teir2 BCs would gank and not tank. So why did you remove the gank from the Drake, and not the tank? Kinetic damage doesn't suck, but the recent changes to the Drake do. Would it really be that bad to have the Drake be ROF and missile velocity? It'd fit the 'gank not tank' idea alot better than kinetic dmg only, and a resists bonus. Originally by:** kieron The Carrier was never intended to be a solo OMGWTF mission-farming PWNmobile.
Malthros Zenobia Caldari Independent Navy Reserve	Posted - 2006.11.18 17:38:00 - [3] Originally by: Nyxus Caldari Folks: The Drake isn't huring for DPS after the changes. And all it takes is T2 ammo, and LASERS. Oh yes, lasers on a shield-tanker, I bet that's just tons of fun. And I see you show that graph using kinetic. Now drop it to something else, and look at that uber sub-300DPS gankage. Originally by: kieron The Carrier was never intended to be a solo OMGWTF mission-farming PWNmobile.
Malthros Zenobia Caldari Independent Navy Reserve	Posted - 2006.11.18 19:37:00 - [4] Originally by: Keta Min maybe tux has to write it all in caps and use a movie with Troy McClure to explain the obvios so even the last caldari gets it What, that Caldari are ment to be a PvE race? Originally by: kieron The Carrier was never intended to be a solo OMGWTF mission-farming PWNmobile.
Malthros Zenobia Caldari Independent Navy Reserve	Posted - 2006.11.19 05:24:00 - [5] Originally by: Keta Min you should get a clue before posting in balancing threads. what other reason do you have to switch dmg types than exploiting uneven resistances and doing more dmg? Yes let's give missiles 1/2 the damage of turrets because they can hit that 70% resisted damage type instead of the 75% one. Originally by: kieron The Carrier was never intended to be a solo OMGWTF mission-farming PWNmobile.
Malthros Zenobia Caldari Independent Navy Reserve	Posted - 2006.11.19 05:35:00 - [6] Originally by: Risien Drogonne Originally by: Merin Ryskin Have you ever tried fitting a Ferox? Fit 5x 250mm rails. Then cry as you realize you have 100% grid use, and 5 mids + 2 highs left to fill. Ok... so you use fitting mods to add some heavy launchers. Now where's your tank? You have about enough grid left to maybe fit a civilian shield booster. So your complaint about the ferox is that it can't fit both the biggest guns and a huge tank? God, you caldari types are spoiled by your missile boats. Name a gunboat that CAN do that. I bet a Brutix has no problems fitting 5 250mm railguns and a tank. Originally by: kieron The Carrier was never intended to be a solo OMGWTF mission-farming PWNmobile.
Malthros Zenobia Caldari Independent Navy Reserve	Posted - 2006.11.19 23:02:00 - [7] Originally by: Patch86 Originally by: Nikolai Nuvolari Ever tried shooting at something with 5 medium railguns and no damage bonus? Heh, let me introduce you to a little friend of mine- the Myrmidon.......... ...which happens to be a ship with 100m3 dronebay and drone bonuses. Originally by: kieron The Carrier was never intended to be a solo OMGWTF mission-farming PWNmobile.
Malthros Zenobia Caldari Independent Navy Reserve	Posted - 2006.11.19 23:10:00 - [8] Originally by: Butter Dog Get a ***** clue. You can deal any damage type. You don't have to worry about tracking. You don't use cap to fire. You don't even have to use cap to tank. Kinetic is also an excellent damage type to use. As good as Thermal, much better than EM. And even if it isnt, you can change to whatever damage type you wish, meaning your TRUE DPS is much much higher than someone limited to two damage types. True DPS means: if you are fighting an armor tanker, you use explosive. If you are fighting a shield tanker, you can use EM. You can pick and choose to get maximum damage. Don't you realise what a massive advantage that is in PvP? Probably not, because Caldari is the lazy PvE race. Yes, because we all know that 500DPS raven, firing exp missiles, hitting a 70% resistance, is going to bve soooo much more effective than the geddon with megapulses and 2x the DPS, hitting the 80% em/therm... Now if the person make a tank with a giant hole, that's another story, but how many people actually go into PVP without resists being as good as possible overall? We don't worry about tracking, but we can never do full damage to smaller targets. If you park a frigate 50km from a railathron, you're going pop in a shot, maybe two. My torps won't be quite so lucky. Plus your tackler buddies can dive straight as a missile boat, whereas doing the same thing to a turret ship sends them home in a pod or new clone. Bering able to hit a weaker resistance that lets you do 20% more DPS doesn't mean much when your base DPS are 60% of everyone else. Originally by:** kieron The Carrier was never intended to be a solo OMGWTF mission-farming PWNmobile.
Malthros Zenobia Caldari Independent Navy Reserve	Posted - 2006.11.21 04:48:00 - [9] Originally by: Risien Drogonne Originally by: Beringe I see a crowd of people who gleefully expected to be handed an overpowered ship blatantly flaming the man who, bravely, did what needed to be done and nerfed it to reasonable levels. The part that ***s me up is all the Caldari whiners saying "we finally had a ship we could PvP with!" Yah, I guess the Caldari are afraid to PvP unless they can fly a ship that can kill 3 of its own class solo. Yes, how dare we * when they decide the best way to tone down a gank ship is to remove the gank. The Drake makes no sense now. None of the new BCs really do. They were ment to be gank ships, and now they're just... meh. Originally by:** kieron The Carrier was never intended to be a solo OMGWTF mission-farming PWNmobile.

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